)..you still..exclude my offer??i sed it very very nicely ..please come to Romania..then i will come to you'r house... but first come and meet my friends adn see the real reson way I am this way..ok Mr.Daniel)...don;t fear fore me...fer yopu'r kind..of animals...!! I'm not a natzy or fascist ori communist..but one thing I cand say proudly...I love girls...i don;t like fagots..!!I ha... )..you still..exclude my offer??i sed it very very nicely ..please come to Romania..then i will come to you'r house... but first come and meet my friends adn see the real reson way I am this way..ok Mr.Daniel)...don;t fear fore me...fer yopu'r kind..of animals...!! I'm not a natzy or fascist ori communist..but one thing I cand say proudly...I love girls...i don;t like fagots..!!I hate the ideea of 2 men makeing love and kissingYEK!!!!!!!!!!answer at my offer then I see the curaje in you...I pormiss you will not die!!!that i promise..but you will never say ever again"i;m danielmclion adn i;m gay..adn proud iof it")...deth fore fagots is a lucky way out)...deth is soft.Please bringe all you'r firends...wil make a big party

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oh boy... No I was not raped by my dad, nor by anyone else. But in my itroduction you can find 3 hobbys. One is psychatry and psychopharma. That is becourse I have been 27 years long volunteer foster home for psychiatric patients. And a dozen were victimes of rape who couldn't go home. Those people stayed here for a few days up to 2 months. So I know their stories and the impact on... oh boy... No I was not raped by my dad, nor by anyone else. But in my itroduction you can find 3 hobbys. One is psychatry and psychopharma.
That is becourse I have been 27 years long volunteer foster home for psychiatric patients. And a dozen were victimes of rape who couldn't go home. Those people stayed here for a few days up to 2 months. So I know their stories and the impact on their lives. It started with the violent rape of a friend of us who came to us to find shelter. Being suicidal, she stayed 2 weeks with us before she could be placed in a clinic. Meanwhile I accomanied her to the psychatrist and so I learned somethings about psychatry and the medication. Her docter in the clinic told me that there was a need for emergency foster homes and I tried it and.... did it 27 years. I'm not a psychatrist but I have been trained as a volunteer to know how to deal with someone psychotic or suicidal and I have read manny books on the subject and medication.
That is also why I am not afraid to talk to you. But I do fear for you. Your vocabulary is so explicit and violent that I fear that you might end up one day to be inprissoned. I think thatyou need psychiatric help to deal with your frustrations and above all how to keep in control with your anger.
Here in NL we have waitinglists. But a print out of our conversation would put way on top as being urgent.
And BTW: except for 2 patients who after all did commit suicide, they all send me cristmas cards and many come to visit me once in a while. And when I was verry ill 11 years ago, whille my man was in Canada, 5 of my ex-fosters took care off me and . my cats. I am an atheist and so I can say that I have earned my heaven in lifetime on earth.

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I think I knoe with what kind of person i'm dealing now...where you raped by you'r dad??or??you have a problem with foreced sex??i agree it's a nasty thing...but..like you hate foreced sex,..I hate fagots..and a nother thing...as longe as I remember..if a grop of people don't understand the polite way...of bieing descrite"don;t kiss in public...don't shout that you like to suck cock!!"then for... I think I knoe with what kind of person i'm dealing now...where you raped by you'r dad??or??you have a problem with foreced sex??i agree it's a nasty thing...but..like you hate foreced sex,..I hate fagots..and a nother thing...as longe as I remember..if a grop of people don't understand the polite way...of bieing descrite"don;t kiss in public...don't shout that you like to suck cock!!"then forece will rozolve all problems.)..you;r not affraid.??really??way don;t you come hereand sufere..fore what you belive in like all greate men..no black mail..just a good beating.>!!!after you din;t have a dick..and no teath in you'r mought..adn eyes like 2 onions..and 1 leg adn no fingers..you will understand..the meeaning..of SHUT THE FUCK UPtrust me.!!!!!I hope all fagots burnpeace

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well... I am sorry but you are indeed sick. But you DO have ONE point! Yes indeed, none of my "faggot romanian friends" does reply. And that is exactly why I am here! ( I am not afraid and NONE can blackmail me. I am real, truthfull and honest and I have NO secret life. ) You have actually another point: Most (elderly) gays here from RO do fear your awfull sick treatnings. And again, that... well... I am sorry but you are indeed sick. But you DO have ONE point!
Yes indeed, none of my "faggot romanian friends" does reply. And that is exactly why I am here! ( I am not afraid and NONE can blackmail me.
I am real, truthfull and honest and I have NO secret life. )
You have actually another point: Most (elderly) gays here from RO do fear your awfull sick treatnings.
And again, that is what keeps me here.
But your excuses, accusations, hatemails etc. etc. proves only that I am right to feel sorry for you.
I "think" that my analyse is near right. It's likely only "near"right becours you don't tell me nor here nor in private what makes you homophobic. Your (now) latest private tells actually a lot. And though all hate at the end, I will not publish it here. It's to painfull for you.
IF you wanna TALK to me, you are still more than welcome! And NO!!! I don't wanna put my dick in your mouth!!! Nor do I wanna fuck you in your ass. And you like "PUSSZZY" ??? So what??? I don't denie you right to like pusszy at all! As long as you don't FORCE girls to take your cock... be happy! Sex is good and fun! And I am indeed already 56 but still enjoy sex! Okay not pussy in the first place but so what??? Be happy that I am not a concurrent! I get daily at least one if not a dozen of pussies promoted.
Boy, boy, boy... Why do you make YOUR life so difficult?
I sincerly wish you 1000 "titzz" and 500 "pusszyyy" a day!
I don't hate women - who love me much - and I don't even hate you. So? What are you making a fuzz about men liking men????
Or was right with my prisson and forced gay sex assumptions?
I GUESS I was.
And IF we would be inprissoned together.... I wouldn't mind to have YOU fucking me! And yes, I wouldn't mind to swallow YOUR ... But I would NEVER EVER force you the other way!!!!
THINK ABOUT THAT!
Again, IF you wana talk about nasty exp. on forced sez, I will support you! Sex is fun! Str8 or gay or ....... Forced sex is a horror storry.

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don;t give me any that EU bull-shit...in ower contry it's all politicl not fore the human rioght..because Eurpo knoes..that romanian people are mucht smarther tha a lot of there shity perfect worlds..)..we romanian people dont imagin everithing is perfect..likle other fucked up nation..we trie to make it good..because..in other countries justice ad law "permit" the politicians to steeal beaca... don;t give me any that EU bull-shit...in ower contry it's all politicl not fore the human rioght..because Eurpo knoes..that romanian people are mucht smarther tha a lot of there shity perfect worlds..)..we romanian people dont imagin everithing is perfect..likle other fucked up nation..we trie to make it good..because..in other countries justice ad law "permit" the politicians to steeal beacause they have frm what but in Ro..politician steeel from a palce where there is less mony so we don;t like it..)that;s way.in Holland they steel because the have where to steell frome..
FUCK the EU!!!adn there stupid right...about you'r fagot friednd ..ok..no Flame..)but an knifenin thae mought..is okI'm not boiling..i told you afther a shitty day..at school and in life...i get home adn swaer you retarded shit-eating fucker . I cool down adn i feel vry calm:so..I think you are the one boiling adn need to shou yopu fagot students how to behave when trethen by a menace like me??)..you are a bad exemple..)i notice that non of you fagot freind say anithing to me..so that meens they are scared..and please ancer my question..will you come in Romania in Tm I am waiting adn we will talk face to face...

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He doesn't care about NL, B, Esp, Can.... No his truth is to found in example in Bosnia. He forgot Serbia where the Int. Court of Justice will still have years of work to condemn genociders. I can tell him that in Iran gay men (even young boys) are sometimes publicky executed. I wanted to ask him if he has any clue why the E.U. members were verry reluctant to accept Romania and Bulgaria and w... He doesn't care about NL, B, Esp, Can.... No his truth is to found in example in Bosnia. He forgot Serbia where the Int. Court of Justice will still have years of work to condemn genociders. I can tell him that in Iran gay men (even young boys) are sometimes publicky executed.
I wanted to ask him if he has any clue why the E.U. members were verry reluctant to accept Romania and Bulgaria and will not accept Bosnia nor Serbia nor Moldavia ect for decades.
With all my respect for RO and Bulgaria, and I was PRO admission, on Human rights those counties are really "retarded" and standing 50 years behind the rest of the former EU. (He uses retarded al te time. )
IF you read the whole trhread "To dream or....." you can see that he is intoducing more and more specific gay sexual acts while avoiding or ignoring to answer my questions. Meanwhile he is geting more and more upset and violent. I am not a dr. in psycholgy or psychatry but I think that he knows what he was talking about. And I guess that the profile I have sketched is verry near reallity. (Also on forced sex/rape/shame) A friend of my who IS a DOCTOR in psychology read it and said "It is verry dangerous to make conclusions based on this mail thread and proffessionally, I don't know. But I guess that the "layman" McLion guesses are not unlikely.nor far away from the truth." That is why I am not angry at him but feel pitty.

As I said in the introduction of this thread, he is boiling. So he needs to cool down a bit. He alreaddy wrote some flame comments to some of my friends here including straight friends. I will keep to tease his uncounsiousness once in a while and it is important that you do the same also with others. I had also trouble to stay cool and not to loose my temper. Do not keep your mouth but also DON'T flame them!

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this is getting stupid...verry stupid..yes..600 of my friend glady cut of you'r and evry gey retarded fuck face friend of you'r hand's adn dick off..adn head..maby thats's littel extrem...but..not only here..in eni other easter conuntry..you never say Rusa,Bosnia,Ukrain..way not??/because Fr,It,Sp,Gb,NOrvegia..and stupid countries like that have a verry good life-that nice..and people get b... this is getting stupid...verry stupid..yes..600 of my friend glady cut of you'r and evry gey retarded fuck face friend of you'r hand's adn dick off..adn head..maby thats's littel extrem...but..not only here..in eni other easter conuntry..you never say Rusa,Bosnia,Ukrain..way not??/because Fr,It,Sp,Gb,NOrvegia..and stupid countries like that have a verry good life-that nice..and people get bored adn start to take drugs,become fagots and all that shit..so I still invite you to my country in Tmand hopte I see you on the streetand yes..thre are people crazy adn stupit enought to hunt adn kill anuimals like youpeace..fuck yopu gafot people..adn die..peace

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dream_creator 12 Oct 2009, 17:17 ok...you meet [people taht say to be fagot is ok..because you (unwilingly) cand talk to people like that...come in Romania.. go in Timisoara>..we will see)))))co in the center of Timisoara.adn kiss with you'r fucking fagot retarded boy-friend wee will see..!I don;t give a FUCK about US,Holland,Denmark,France,Spai n,Italy..like I told you..Let's talk abou... dream_creator
12 Oct 2009, 17:17

ok...you meet [people taht say to be fagot is ok..because you (unwilingly) cand talk to people like that...come in Romania.. go in Timisoara>..we will see)))))co in the center of Timisoara.adn kiss with you'r fucking fagot retarded boy-friend wee will see..!I don;t give a FUCK about US,Holland,Denmark,France,Spai n,Italy..like I told you..Let's talk about Bosnia,Ukrain,Slovacia,Molda via,Russi,Romania..way don;t you sey in Ukrain there is a majority of fragots) adn it's ok to be gey or Moldavia???I Invite you in Romania in my city> I wills how respect fore fagots>....!!!!fucking animals..fagots and pedofiles MUST die....so i'm waiting....and a nother 600 people that can't wait to stik there knifes in a fagot head.Please come in Romania

danielmclion
12 Oct 2009, 21:01
I am so sorry for you. You are verry sick. I don't want to repeat it but for the last time: YOU are the loser. "WE"will winn!. This was my last reply to you in private. I will still post your msgs and my comments at w.w.g.p. If you don't dare to reply at that club... sorry, Pa pa, NU sarut. I have waisted enough of my time with you in private. You are bored, I am not. Guess why?
[END OF ORIGINAL MSGS]

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I'am not happy to talk ABOUT people. I rather talk WITH people. And I do a lot here at Neogen. My now over 30 msgs long discussion with dream_creator has not been verry helpfull. Maybe a total waist of my time, and yet, it is verry important to address these kind of homophobes. Whatever his state of mind.may be now, he is almost boiling, WE (read YOU) have to speak up! Non violent resis... I'am not happy to talk ABOUT people. I rather talk WITH people. And I do a lot here at Neogen. My now over 30 msgs long discussion with dream_creator has not been verry helpfull. Maybe a total waist of my time, and yet, it is verry important to address these kind of homophobes.
Whatever his state of mind.may be now, he is almost boiling, WE (read YOU) have to speak up! Non violent resistence and demanding is the basis of any change without "wars". The abollishment of slavery, womens right to vote, end of Apartheid in South Africa and now 20 years ago end of communist dictatorship, it only happenned becaurse people went on the streets to demand for their rights. But those things wouldn't have happenned at all if everyone would have kept his mout.
I am pretty shure that dream_creator will talk about this discussion with his friends. Indeed creating his own world. But also UNCOUNSIOUSLY being bussy to get the discussion going!

THAT is needed! It is even verry likely that he will fulminate about me against a secretly gay friend or at least a str8ght friend who wouldn't care about homosexuality. He got extremer and extremer against me, and so will he talk to his friends. I said he is almost boiling.

Whenever he told friends "all gays should burn in hell" it is likely that they said "yeah,sure". But now he is talking about killing, Inviting me to come to Timi to have sone 600 knives in my head,..... That kind of extremism is usually over the edge for most people who likely would say so. That is what we need! Consiousnes! Awarenes and internal difference within the group. THAT IS HOW IT WORKS!
One friend might tell him: "Now..... isn't that a bit to much?" Another friend might keep his mouth on the spot, but likely have it on his mind. And another wil come home and say: "I think that dream_creator is becomming mad:" and have a discussion with others about the subject. And it is verry likely that the discussion will divide the minds again. THAT is PURE WINNING!
Most people say "yes, sure" without thinking or uncounsiously to be not an outsider. But once they start thinking about it....
First they will think: Kiling them? Then for what actually? Do I care if X is gay? ......
Therefore I urge you all to open up your mouth. (Litt. in real life and/or here on internet) It is MOST importantant to have discussions and debate! Openly aswel as in private! THEN people will start thinking. When you keep your mouth people will and follow the sheaps.
Here after I will publish the last msgs with dream_creator. It is not funny to read. But important to understand what I mean.
If you wanna know more, read the thread To dream or not to dream. He finally did posted and awfull sick msg himself. I'm not angry att all! I feel verry sorry for him.

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I am sick!!!so what the fuck>?....its my problem not you fagot retatrde animals!!!!!!11